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Post by d on Sept 2, 2005 15:17:43 GMT 2
Trotting exercises is part of the schooling of a young horse. A-grade horses generally get to where they are because they had the fundamentals of basic schooling. If a horse is not schooled correctly, how do you expect it to get himself and you (generally because it is rider error) out of a sticky situation. The comment earlier about someone stopping in the warm up arena is total selfishness. Schooling is to be done at home, not at shows.
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Post by Salinero on Sept 2, 2005 16:41:04 GMT 2
D, agree with you on the schooling at home, but when the rider stopped her horse at the show after a jump, she only did it a few times to make sure that the horse is warmed up properly and responding to her aids ... and she made sure no one was behind her so as not to cause a serious accident.
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Post by d on Sept 2, 2005 16:43:44 GMT 2
I commented on it because I've seen so many selfish riders doing that - not a couple of times, but actually schooling the horse at the show, and causing a wrath of words....
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Post by Salinero on Sept 2, 2005 16:48:49 GMT 2
I can imagine ... especially if they don't check if anyone is behind them. I've had that happen to me ... following at a VERY safe distance behind another horse (I'm talking 20m) just to have the @(#&$@ rider stop after the jump and stand and chat to his/her instructor. Or you get the people that need a lead and therefore stick their horse's nose up your horse's a$$ ...
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Post by AJ on Sept 5, 2005 9:36:23 GMT 2
I had one of those yesterday....luckily most of my animals have ABS and anti-skid.....
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Post by Arwen on Sept 5, 2005 23:00:22 GMT 2
in response to Rhi's post, she rode the beasty (said with love) this weekend and can't believe the improvement...thought it was just my opinion as a biased mother, but it has now been proven!! schooling works wonders... she's jumping so much better too
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Post by thelwell on Nov 28, 2005 21:14:37 GMT 2
You have so much to say, Can YOU (and you know who i am talking about) ride like Tossy. She is highly above average, So dont knock her.
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Post by Salinero on Nov 28, 2005 21:29:15 GMT 2
Who are you talking about thelwell? There are a few people that commented on this thread? If you want to aim and fire, don't shoot in the dark ...
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Post by louisebella on Nov 30, 2005 9:27:08 GMT 2
I agree, Flatwork is the basis of all disciplines! It focuses on getting your horse balanced, established a rhythm, which is so important in showjumping. You just can't get that with just jumping.
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Post by Tiggles... the origional one:) on Dec 4, 2005 16:05:10 GMT 2
Flatwork is the key to successful jumping
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Post by Jemish on Dec 29, 2005 12:50:10 GMT 2
Not to quote anyone but i was always told dressage over fences
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Post by Saxon on Feb 23, 2006 12:59:10 GMT 2
Dizzy, not to put too fine a point on it, but what's the point of having a training video where the horses do everything perfectly. I think I've seen this video, most of the horses are young and green and doesn't Ludgar teach them how to deal with precisely this problem.
I remember your baby at his first training show. He was by no means the picture of perfect flatwork as he might be now, but he needed the show for exposure, right?
We all start somewhere...
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Post by Buffy on Feb 23, 2006 13:15:10 GMT 2
I have to agree Saxon, so often training videos only show the horses that are going well. It is very unlikely that they are going to show a typical young horse, especially because it is EXTREMEMLY difficult to look neat and good on a youngster, you ahve to work much harder to get very little out of them.
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Post by savannah on Feb 23, 2006 22:43:52 GMT 2
I hate to break the news to you Saxon but the video that was referred to is one that I have and those are not green horses, they are all horses competing in international competitions. as for your little dig at somebody else's baby at a show, I too was at that show, and at least she went clear! Nor does she profess to be an international rider and that was a TRAINING SHOW with a baby of 4 and it was his FIRST show over a 30cm course, not an international show. I think you are totally missing the whole point of the initial thread. The point being made is that the RIDERS, whether they were on novice or advanced horses, had no idea of how to correctly ride smaller jumps with placing poles etc. at either a trot or a canter. Unless of course you are willing to go up against the knowledge of a rider like Ludger Beerbaum who pointed that out to quite a couple of those riders.
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Post by Saxon on Feb 24, 2006 7:46:55 GMT 2
Savanna, it was not a dig, and I'm sorry if it came across that way. The point I was making was that even Vader was green at some point. That's not an insult is it?? I'm certainly not going to profess to know even one iota of what Ludger B knows, but then I'm also not trying to suggest that A grade = no flatwork....
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